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Junk Food Charlie delves deeper into the facinating story behind the new Stew Hat Records reissue of Mr. Applesauce’s classic underground album, The Story of the Gelatin Girl

After standing in the naughty corner for a while after a breach of contract, Junk Food Charlie has lost a special friend and we find out all about this terrible loss and the 2nd coming of The Story of the Gelatin Girl.

Llewelyn: Junk Food Charlie. We appreciate your time with us today and welcome to A&R Factory. 1st question. How did you get the name and what is your fave meal in the whole wide world?

Junk Food Charlie: Thank you for having me. Since I’m acting as Mr. Applesauce’s publicist for this new release, I’ll answer this question as if I were him. Mr. Applesauce’s name comes from his style of writing which is often made to seem nonsensical (though whether it truly is or not depends on the specific song in question) and was inspired by a Dictionary.com “Word of the Day” email in which the word of the day was “applesauce.” His favorite meal was roast beef Manhattans.

Llewelyn: Ok, next question. Are you back in the good books of your label after this release or is more work still to be done?

Junk Food Charlie: I’d say there’s more work still to be done, but doing press for this new Mr. Applesauce release is a step in the right direction. I would have done this regardless because he was a good friend of mine but if it eases some of the tension between the label and I, that’s an added bonus. As of right now, the label (Stew Hat Records) is also using all of my platforms to promote its other artists, with a focus on Mr. Applesauce right now given his recent passing. Even though my name is attached to the other artist’s projects, I don’t take credit for their work. It’s really more of a marketing thing considering the publicity I got for getting my show canceled. I feel like it’s only fair that they use my name for promotional purposes to try and make some kind of money after that project tanked. While the way we’ve gone about rebuilding our relationship has been unorthodox, I’m hoping it will work out.

Llewelyn: We’re very sad to hear about the cancellation of The Junk Food Charlie Variety Hour. Many condolences on the loss of your co-host Mr. Applesauce. What would you say are your fondest memories of his life?

Junk Food Charlie: Thank you. Fond memories are many when it comes to Mr. Applesauce but in light of this new release (or I suppose I should say reissue), I’ve been thinking about actually being in his studio as he was writing and recording the original version of The Story of the Gelatin Girl several years ago. We didn’t know each other as well back then but I learned a lot about him by watching him work. He really immersed himself in the experience and always worked off of intuition. I asked him at a couple points where certain lyrics came from and he’d always say, “not sure, might just be applesauce, but it feels right.” I think the album really reflects that carefree nature he had in more ways than one. Sure, some of the songs are purely driven by feeling and aren’t necessarily making some big statement, but there are plenty of moments on the album that are inspired by his life that are quite vulnerable and others that seem nonsensical at first but actually have their own logic that they’re built on. In every case, he approached creating with an enthusiasm that was particularly contagious. One final thing I’ll say is that I really admired his conscience. I remember when he finished the album, he was worried about how some songs might be interpreted. I simply told him, “I can tell just by watching you work that this was more about you having fun than it was about calling anyone out or starting any kind of drama. Sure, you happened to process some pretty intense emotions along the way, but I don’t think anyone should fault you for that because I can tell it genuinely helped you.”

Llewelyn: You had so much underground popularity before. What do you think is the main reason for that and are you proud of this project?

Junk Food Charlie: To be fair, Mr. Applesauce had more underground popularity than me back in the day. I did some stuff here and there but his work ethic was always on another level. I think the main reason for his popularity though was his authenticity. He considered his music to be pop but it was never pop music that was trying to please the masses. He created on his own terms and I think people saw that and were drawn to it. I know he took a lot of pride in The Story of the Gelatin Girl. He often described it as his most “in the moment” project and I think that’s extremely accurate. It’s like a time capsule.

Llewelyn: What do you feel is the future of Stew Hat Records?

Junk Food Charlie: I feel the future of Stew Hat Records is bright. They’ve got so many talented artists on their roster, many of which are working on their debut albums. I’m not at liberty to get into too many specifics right now about all that, but I know I’m personally very excited about their recently signing Glown About Sten to the label. He’s got chops.

Llewelyn: Last question. What does the future hold and do you have any exciting plans for the rest of 2023 and beyond?

Junk Food Charlie: I actually just launched a store on Threadless for some visual art I’ve been working on (I’m on there as Junk Food Charlie.) The label is also working on possibly putting a show together later in the year so I’d encourage anyone interested in that to keep an eye out on Instagram (@junkfoodcharlie.) There’s definitely more music in the works as well, but when it will be released is still uncertain as of right now. There are multiple projects in production though, so stay tuned!

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Interview by Llewelyn Screen

Junk Food Charlie Interview: Leading us directly into The Junk Food Charlie Variety Hour

Keeping things real and rather authentic, Junk Food Charlie had a chat with us recently all about tasty cookies, learning Greek and telling us all about the exciting debut album which drops on January 31st.

Hello Junk Food Charlie. We appreciate your time. First, how are you doing today and what is the best way to create music that matters in your eyes?

Hi, thank you for having me! I’m doing well, thank you for asking. I hope you are well also. As far as creating music that matters, I think authenticity should be put first. Creating something simply because I believe it should exist and following that instinct wholeheartedly is the biggest part of it for me. Whether the music is super conceptual or completely nonsensical, if it’s genuine, that’s what matters to me and I think that ultimately stands a better chance of connecting with others.

Your name is fascinating. Please let us into the story?

Thank you! I used to eat A LOT of junk food, specifically cookies. I could go through a couple of packs of dough a week with no problem. Around that time I ate a lot of s’mores too and just a lot of sweets in general. It didn’t have any discernible, negative effects so I just kept at it. Of course, as I got older, I started to notice those kinds of effects more when I ate like that and I realized it was even a kind of coping mechanism at times. I’ve cut back on all that quite a bit in recent years but the relationship fascinated me and how something that used to feel so purely enjoyable turned into something toxic. That’s informed a lot of my writing under the name Junk Food Charlie and my fixation on themes of consumerism, cost/benefit relationships, and unhealthy ties to a substance or even people. On the other hand, junk food, being sweet and having little to no substance is a good metaphor for some of the more nonsensical songs I want to write. I have some stuff I want to say but I certainly don’t want to take myself too seriously or feel like I have to be making some grand statement all the time, so there are different layers to it.

The “Charlie” part is based on a nickname from my mom. Way back in the old days of YouTube when that “Charlie Bit My Finger” video was popular my mom started referring to me as Charlie every now and then as a joke (not because I was biting people) and after a while, it just stuck. And that’s the story!

You grew up in Glasgow, Kentucky and are now based in Bowling Green, Kentucky. How did these two cities define your sound?

Glasgow isn’t a huge place but there was a bit of a music scene when I lived there. I don’t really know what it’s like now but when I was there, there were a few artists doing this kind of music, a few artists doing that kind of music but there wasn’t a “Glasgow sound” necessarily which was probably just due to its size. Since there was no mould to try to fit into, I just did whatever I felt like doing and made it a goal to have my own sound.

Bowling Green, on the other hand, is quite a bit bigger and so there is much more diversity and also more in the way of music venues, art galleries, and that sort of thing. Being able to explore a wider variety of art has really enriched my life as an artist and while it’s difficult to pinpoint what parts of my sound I can attribute to Bowling Green’s influence, I wouldn’t be the artist I am without it.

How did the creative process unfold in the making of your upcoming release?

It all started with a vague impression of a concept. I had been watching a lot of Space Ghost Coast to Coast and The Eric Andre Show when I thought about how it would be cool to do something music related with the whole parody talk show idea. That idea stayed an idea for a while up until I went to a songwriting conference in February of last year. I had a one-on-one session with a music industry professional and he gave me a lot of great advice on how to broaden the scope of what I was doing. In particular, he recommended releasing short tracks every so often, like wonky remixes of previously released songs or even something akin to skits so as to keep a steady stream of content flowing. I absolutely loved the idea and started recording once I was back home from the conference. During those initial sessions, I ended up with what would ultimately be the tracks “Promo” and “The Junk Food Charlie Variety Hour” from my upcoming release (the latter being the album’s title track.) It was incredibly energizing to finally be doing something with that initial inspiration while also incorporating the short song approach and those first two tracks gave me the momentum to keep running with it all until I had an album. However, while a lot of the album happened very quickly, it didn’t all happen during a small window of time.

I took a nearly two-month-long trip to Austin, Texas the following April for an experimental filmmaking course which required me to make a short film as my final project. I immediately thought about creating a film to go with my album. I knew it would be more work than I could probably imagine, but after realizing no other idea was as exciting to me and how much context a film would add to the concept of the album, I went for it. What followed was a string of frantic filming, re-filming, making my best attempts at acting, and finishing my album (at times writing songs on the same day that I was shooting footage for their respective scenes within the film.)

Fast forwarding past the countless hours of editing and a horrid burnout phase that occupied the next several months, I ultimately finished the album and the companion short film.

I learned a lot about myself in the process and one particular song on the album relating to my hometown (the title will likely stand out in light of this interview) may very well be the most therapeutic song I’ve written up to that point. Everything was moving so quickly and I was relying on my gut for so much of the time that I think it ended up having a certain magic, lightning-in-a-bottle feeling. To say that I worked hard on this release would be an understatement and I’m proud of it both as an artistic statement and as a documentation of my 2022.

What’s the best thing about being in the music industry?

I’ve met a lot of wonderful people. Meeting other creatives, in general, is great and every now and then I find one of those kindred spirits that I connect with on an even deeper level. Plus anytime I meet someone, whether they’re an artist, an A&R person, or whatever the case may be, that genuinely enjoys what I make, it’s always a great boost. The friends and support I’ve gained through the industry have been so huge in keeping me going.

Where is one place you wish to play live and why?

I’d love to play around Greece eventually. I’m fascinated by the culture and, naturally, the food. Plus, being into philosophy, Greece is a place that makes sense for me to visit. I’ve also been learning Greek over the last year and a half, so having the chance to practice that would be great too.

Last, what’s next in store for you music-wise?

I’ve been writing a lot of new material, exploring different sounds/styles and how I can continue to further the lore of the album and short film. I can’t make too many specific guarantees right now but I can say that whatever comes next will probably be, at the very least, somewhat of a departure from this upcoming project. There’s too much ground I want to cover for me to stick to just one thing for too terribly long. The approach may be different and I may even be playing a different character entirely but, in a broad sort of sense, it’ll still sound like me, whatever it is. I certainly don’t plan on staying quiet for the rest of 2023.

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Interview by Llewelyn Screen